all the modern things have always existed they've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment
- Bjork, modern things
four services it offers:
1. chat (irc)
2. mail (e-mail (mailing lists))
3. forums ((mailing lists,) news, web forums)
4. sites ('pages', www services including ftp etc. file archives)
being on the net means using them, usually all four, simultaneously.
what are they?
chat: people you are (work, part, live) with .. friends
mail: organising things, inqueries, ..
forums: common interests, interest groups
sites: services by people and organizations
chat most interactive, sites least,
chat togetherness, intimate .. "useless" (feelings)
mail practical for workj but also most intimate and .. tears
sites remote and cold services (mass media, shopping etc)
Backoffice: (what is always running on background, parts of the system)
0: irc helpers
1: procmail for autofiltering & foldering
the applications (programs, software)
we use are quite primitive.
sometimes i wonder if that's stupid,
if it makes us old fashioned, inefficient etc.
then again, they are the tools we know
and that work well, are reliable fast,
straightforward and flexible,
for example location indepentent
yesterday I wrote that I quitted programming
because of the Internet. as like the tools were
perfect already. of course they aren't .. but is it
that there are so many people making them
anyway and we get to use them immidiately
that totally other things fascinate more?
about tools and art on nettime:
from a reply:
said aloud in a party friday night:
"Internet is the Best Support
to get Real World Experiences."
(are what we're running after)
what makes me insists such things?
is it true?
i guess i had arguments:
it's the best place to know what's going on
and where and how to get there and who's
doing what who to meet and what to say and do.
but if it means ending up spending half
of your time on-line wouldn't it be just
better to (Mike Oldfield, Ommadawn, song three)
go to people and live with them and whatever?
and get drown in paper and fascinated by
telephones? no thanks.
the net presense is not independent
from real world situation. perhaps
it can / could be, but to get the
best support i've started to
separate different roles and even
physical locations (cities)
example: situations when living in Helsinki:
work - home - visit
art - work - study - LIFE
projects, responsibilities, ...
how to organize net being so that it supports existing locations and roles (situations) best?
i've done it mainly by separating different situations on different bases so that when logging in i can choose which roles to have and how much.
isn't it obvious that you can't be in one place at one time
while you're away my heart comes undone, slowly unravels..
netppl.fi for Oulu (friends) and net.biz
lib.hel.fi for the civil service and related activities (INTA, ...)
an.org for own new projects and private things.
now in amsterdam i'm still in a process:
there's only on irc for finland now that covers
both netppl and an -activities and the whole country,
cs.vu.nl has replaced lib.hel.fi as daily activities
but the whole thing has not really taken form yet..
(as has not the rest of the life either)
just by letting my net presense lay in those systems
i can, every day, follow what is going on. of course
i'd get official documents and other information
otherwise too, but it seems that following everyday
babble and participating in shared problem solving
gives a lot more.
so when you come back we'll have to make new love
the company, net people, is an extreme example as
quite many of them work over the net even inside
the town so i can see all that from everywhere
of course every moment i spend on the net with my
old friends back in finland is away from my
intensivity of being here in holland. sure i'd
need to use the net anyway just to get general
information and to keep contact with other people too,
but hanging with friends tends to take quite a lot
of time especially if i make the mistake trying to
continue work when tired.
it seems, though, that many of my international
friends spend quite a lot of time writing and
reading letters, books, magazines etc. from their
homes without useing the Internet, too. i'd guess
it distracts from the local culture just the same
recycle and refine
forwards, logs, ...
how does net support?
what does it change?
would need better database facilities!
do not think communicate!
.. which makes
I've felt comfortable with being textual.
That is, luckily, not always true.
I value true physical embodiment with my full body priceless.
I enjoy nothing like dance.
One of my old ambitions is combining, bridging these two worlds
in a way that allows to play in between. That's actually what I
always do but worlds of the net and dance are quite a special case.
Did you already take a look at one early experiment I always like
to mention: http://www.netppl.fi/~antont/pics/montaasi94.jpg ?